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lian's fault. And the fault of the anonymous person who so generously gifted me with two months of paid time (&hearts). This is also a follow-up post to my last post about fandom and language, in a way. It's also my first poll, so please tell me what I could have done better.Note: For the purpose of this poll, I won't define "fandom" or "(language) fandom". I'll leave that up to you.
Poll #247 fandom & language
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 258
What language(s) do you use to participate in fandom?
English
258 (100.0%)
German 33 (12.8%)
French 18 (7.0%)
Italian 4 (1.6%)
Dutch 2 (0.8%)
Japanese 13 (5.0%)
Chinese 3 (1.2%)
Spanish 20 (7.8%)
Finnish 0 (0.0%)
Swedish 5 (1.9%)
Russian 8 (3.1%)
Czech 1 (0.4%)
Portuguese 2 (0.8%)
Norwegian 3 (1.2%)
Polish 1 (0.4%)
Hungarian 1 (0.4%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 1 (0.4%)
Greek 0 (0.0%)
Filipino 1 (0.4%)
Indonesian 1 (0.4%)
Hebrew 1 (0.4%)
Danish 4 (1.6%)
Arabic 0 (0.0%)
Other (please specify in the comments) 4 (1.6%)
What language(s) do you use to write and translate fic?
English 207 (95.4%)
German 22 (10.1%)
French 9 (4.1%)
Italian 2 (0.9%)
Dutch 2 (0.9%)
Japanese 7 (3.2%)
Chinese 3 (1.4%)
Spanish 15 (6.9%)
Finnish 1 (0.5%)
Swedish 0 (0.0%)
Russian 8 (3.7%)
Czech 1 (0.5%)
Portuguese 2 (0.9%)
Norwegian 0 (0.0%)
Polish 0 (0.0%)
Hungarian 0 (0.0%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 0 (0.0%)
Greek 1 (0.5%)
Filipino 0 (0.0%)
Indonesian 0 (0.0%)
Hebrew 1 (0.5%)
Danish 2 (0.9%)
Arabic 0 (0.0%)
Other (please specify in the comments) 5 (2.3%)
What language(s) did and do you use to read fic and/or follow canon?
English 258 (100.0%)
German 37 (14.3%)
French 31 (12.0%)
Italian 7 (2.7%)
Dutch 1 (0.4%)
Japanese 28 (10.9%)
Chinese 5 (1.9%)
Spanish 22 (8.5%)
Finnish 3 (1.2%)
Swedish 5 (1.9%)
Russian 11 (4.3%)
Czech 2 (0.8%)
Portuguese 3 (1.2%)
Norwegian 4 (1.6%)
Polish 2 (0.8%)
Hungarian 2 (0.8%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 0 (0.0%)
Greek 0 (0.0%)
Filipino 2 (0.8%)
Indonesian 0 (0.0%)
Hebrew 1 (0.4%)
Danish 7 (2.7%)
Arabic 0 (0.0%)
Other (please specify in the comments) 1 (0.4%)
What languages do you use to read/write meta?
English 248 (97.6%)
German 20 (7.9%)
French 6 (2.4%)
Italian 1 (0.4%)
Dutch 1 (0.4%)
Japanese 3 (1.2%)
Chinese 1 (0.4%)
Spanish 14 (5.5%)
Finnish 2 (0.8%)
Swedish 2 (0.8%)
Russian 7 (2.8%)
Czech 1 (0.4%)
Portuguese 0 (0.0%)
Norwegian 1 (0.4%)
Polish 1 (0.4%)
Hungarian 1 (0.4%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 0 (0.0%)
Greek 1 (0.4%)
Filipino 0 (0.0%)
Indonesian 0 (0.0%)
Hebrew 1 (0.4%)
Danish 1 (0.4%)
Arabic 0 (0.0%)
Other (please specify in the comments) 2 (0.8%)
What is your first language (two or three if you were raised bi- or trilingual)?
English 136 (52.9%)
German 38 (14.8%)
French 12 (4.7%)
Italian 3 (1.2%)
Dutch 6 (2.3%)
Japanese 1 (0.4%)
Chinese 10 (3.9%)
Spanish 21 (8.2%)
Finnish 5 (1.9%)
Swedish 10 (3.9%)
Russian 8 (3.1%)
Czech 2 (0.8%)
Portuguese 3 (1.2%)
Norwegian 4 (1.6%)
Polish 2 (0.8%)
Hungarian 2 (0.8%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 0 (0.0%)
Greek 1 (0.4%)
Filipino 4 (1.6%)
Indonesian 0 (0.0%)
Hebrew 3 (1.2%)
Danish 9 (3.5%)
Arabic 1 (0.4%)
Other (please specify in the comments) 14 (5.4%)
What languages do you speak/are you able to read/have you learned?
English 227 (89.4%)
German 104 (40.9%)
French 113 (44.5%)
Italian 30 (11.8%)
Dutch 11 (4.3%)
Japanese 38 (15.0%)
Chinese 13 (5.1%)
Spanish 76 (29.9%)
Finnish 6 (2.4%)
Swedish 26 (10.2%)
Russian 19 (7.5%)
Czech 3 (1.2%)
Portuguese 8 (3.1%)
Norwegian 14 (5.5%)
Polish 5 (2.0%)
Hungarian 1 (0.4%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 1 (0.4%)
Greek 3 (1.2%)
Ancient Greek 14 (5.5%)
Latin 46 (18.1%)
Esperanto 1 (0.4%)
Filipino 4 (1.6%)
Indonesian 1 (0.4%)
Hebrew 7 (2.8%)
Danish 17 (6.7%)
Arabic 3 (1.2%)
Other constructed languages (e.g. Klingon - please specify) 1 (0.4%)
Other (please specify) 32 (12.6%)
What was your first fandom (language)?
English 203 (78.7%)
German 26 (10.1%)
French 3 (1.2%)
Italian 0 (0.0%)
Dutch 3 (1.2%)
Japanese 1 (0.4%)
Chinese 0 (0.0%)
Spanish 9 (3.5%)
Finnish 1 (0.4%)
Swedish 2 (0.8%)
Russian 4 (1.6%)
Czech 0 (0.0%)
Portuguese 0 (0.0%)
Norwegian 1 (0.4%)
Polish 2 (0.8%)
Hungarian 1 (0.4%)
Turkish 0 (0.0%)
Korean 0 (0.0%)
Greek 0 (0.0%)
Filipino 0 (0.0%)
Indonesian 0 (0.0%)
Hebrew 0 (0.0%)
Danish 1 (0.4%)
Arabic 0 (0.0%)
Other (please specify in the comments) 1 (0.4%)
What was your first fandom (media)?
TV Series 94 (36.6%)
Movie 15 (5.8%)
Book 86 (33.5%)
RPF 7 (2.7%)
Game 9 (3.5%)
Anime 33 (12.8%)
Cartoon 2 (0.8%)
Musical/Play 2 (0.8%)
Comic 1 (0.4%)
Manga 8 (3.1%)
What was your first fandon (e.g. Harry Potter)
Did you participate in this poll?
PS: I would appreciate it if you would pimp this poll.
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But who knows, some fandoms probably use Ancient Greek in some small way. (Alexander?)
(And since you asked for comments on the poll itself: the question "What language(s) do you use to write and translate fic?" might have worked better as two questions. I do write, but never have translated a single piece of fic in my life :-) I did interpret it as "What language(s) do you use to write fic?")
I'm studying Polish, Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian and I learned French in school. French is mostly gone but I hope I will be able to participate in fandom one day using Polish and SerCroBo. I talked to a few people in fandom circles using Polish but we didn't talk about anything fandom-related.
I saw a Merlin fic in Hebrew somewhere in my flist a couple of weeks ago, and the very thought of fanfiction in Hebrew blew my mind a little—I'm so used to associating the language with quasi-exclusive religious usage!
Anyway. Yes. The poll shall be duly pimped.
Reading fic did a lot of good to my English so maybe...
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Regarding canons, I try to follow them in the original language if I understand it. If not, in whatever language is uploading quicker (which led to things like watching a series in English, Spanish and French).
I prefer the original language for canon as well, if I can understand what's going on at least a bit and if there is no other alternative. That's how I started reading/watching stuff in English as well (Heroic Legend of Arislan). I sometimes read Japanese and English manga as well. And I think I even watched a few episodes of Coffee Prince with bad French subtitles.
Romanian.
6) What languages do you speak/are you able to read/have you learned?.
Speak/read : french, portuguese, english (8 years in junior high/highschool), spanish (3 years in highschool + 4 at university) <- I read fic in these 4 languages.
Learnt : german (5 years), swedish (3 years) but err... lack of practice = Ich habe fast alles vergessen!
8) I may have started in anime/manga, but I've been most active in US TV series fandoms (BtVS mostly).
As far as I remember, my first fanart was a Goldorak drawing (anime, UFO Robot Grendizer in japanese). I was 6 or 7 and it was pinned on the wall of my CE1 classroom (2nd grade). I entered online fandom years later (at university) through usenet (fr.rec.anime) and my first post was about Sailor Moon (or rather Sailor V).
As for ConLangs, I know some Sindarin, Quenya and a bit of Adûnaic, and in terms of Others, Plattdeutsch, that is Low German as spoken in Northern Germany. Hope this helps some. Interesting poll at any rate.
Und Plattdüütsch ist jetzt eine eigene Sprache? Für Süddeutsche vielleicht.
For all intents and purposes, I'm English-only.
That may be just me, though.
Anyway, I wanted to clarify that I only read fic in Spanish now if I know the author and am detached enough from the canon to take the dialogue as it is rather than translate it in my head as I read. I'd read fic in the other languages I can read (high school French, Portuguese is very similar to Spanish, took a few months of Italian a while ago) if, you know, I stumbled across something interesting. Which I never do.
if, you know, I stumbled across something interesting. Which I never do.
I think that's the main reason. If you primarily read in English, you don't have the chance to stumble upon fic in other languages, because it's posted elsewhere or in some special place on the archive. (The worst case of that is aff.net, if you ask me.)
*is interested* What fandom and what other language and what was it about?
Also, I was trilingual ASL/english/polish when young, but i have since forgot 99% of it, so I didn't check that one; I wasn't entirely sure if I should or not.
And re: the languages I've learned - Swedish and Latin are purely on the level of 'have learned and have some rudimentary knowledge of'. English is a language I probably read even more in than in my native Estonian, and Finnish and Russian I can read and get by in, but not as well as in English.
Also, I'm sure you are aware that your poll results are most likely going to be skewed towards the English language users, even if it gets pimped far and wide, am I right? (not meant as a criticism, just an observation).
Yup, I sort of expected that. Since the poll is in English and on a LJ-like website, there's not much of a chance of anyone but those who read English to find it. And actually, before the poll got linked via metafandom, most people who answered used English for fandom puposes, but the native language that was chosen the most was German.
it took me a long time to be able to read fic in my own language without finding it off-putting, and even so, reading in english still feels more natural.
I first read Harry Potter in Greek (I'm Greek) but I wasn't in fandom back then, so I don't consider it my first fandom language. Since I got into fandom after the fifth HP book, I've only read canon (and fic) in English. In all other fandoms too, I only read and watch things in English. (For anime, I need English subtitles.) One thing is certain, my English has improved a lot in the last five years. ;)
I didn't reply to your second question since I don't write or translate fic; I make fanart. And I'm not sure I should have checked German as a language I speak. I did learn it but I have forgotten it and can barely speak it now. I wouldn't be able to read fic in German.
For young children there really is a big diffrence, and politicans are currently having a fight if Swiss German or "proper" German should be used by teachers when comunicating with pupils outside of grammer classes
Edited 2009-05-15 05:54 pm (UTC)